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Global Warming Chickenlittleism

- Richard Mills - Ahead of the Herd

Overtheedge in name as well as nature. I'll bite:

#1 you are talking bullsh**. You have to be a scientist and have detailed knowledge in the area you are reviewing to actually review. And the fact that you have an opinion will not detract from the results if they are lacking. YOU know as well as I do that the vested interests have endless amounts of capital to find holes and that apart from living in denial they try to make a mountain out of a mole hill so that they get their way.

#2 I had a quick look was at YOUR so called expert. He is a fraud.

#3 don't know if you are just plain dumb or simply guilding the lily. My reference to the time frame was in response to statements made trying to stitch up things like ice ages and volcanoes (which do spew out copious amounts of CO2) as being a valid reason to ignore the HUGE CO2 increases in....wait for it.....only the last 60 years. Do yourself a favour and check out the Nasa link (http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence) which I gave you previously. Check out the graph. Its there to see.

#4 my example of flat screen TVs was simply to establish the place of science and the benefits it brings to mankind. So how many R&D projects have gone belly up? Thousands! These cost all taxpayers too. But none of us would say that we should not do research to find new products. This is where your argument fails....you attempt to demonise the few dollars spent on climate studies and choose not to put this into context. Yet another climate denier tactic to bring down the science.

The "vested interests" are those large well funded businesses which choose to pervert history for their own benefit. A bit like (don't get me started) Obamacare is about not letting poor people die in the gutter and about background checks for gun owners is about stopping loonies with massacres on their mind from owning guns. Oh I forgot, no large multi-national behaves immorally. And of course the oil and coal industries would not stoop to trying to stop society from employing scientists to determine whether or not climate science is real lest they discover that it is and have to watch their industries shrink or even disappear.

You stated "evidence clearly presents the picture of stability over the last 15 years". That is the point. Just like the financial markets one cannot expect a linear change or for a smooth change. This is a fallacy and rarely occurs. Just like the stock market has hiccups I expect that nature will also have pauses (maybe) and fight back ....... but will lose the battle in the long run.

You stated "The opinions of 10,000 people means nothing if they don't know anything about the subject." True. And it depends on the 10,000 and on the varying degrees of knowledge. My response is that you should look around you: the shrinking ice caps, the acidification and warming of the oceans, and the established increase in global temperatures....quite apart from what the studies are saying. I'll give you a quote from Australia in the past week: "hottest day, hottest week, hottest month and hottest year on record". The 10,000 people you mention may not agree but the statisticians will tell you otherwise. Maybe another conspiracy theory!

Your last 2 paragraphs show a glimmer of hope my friend. Whilst we will not agree I do acknowledge some of the problems. This is why the IPCC does come in for a bit of criticism. Their computer models, just like weather prediction, are not always 100% spot on. But this does not mean that the science is a sham or being manipulated. And it will get better and better as the capability of computers continues to grow and despite vested interests who pour money into funding for anyone who opposes climate change science. But these people are generally not scientists or at best they are scientists who have sold their soul for money (cash for comment) whilst abandoning objectivity and honesty to live a comfortable life. Despicable people. But fortunately there ain't too many of these around which is why vested interests have to employ folk such as Lord Mockford and Edmund Contoski who was put up by one of the deniers above. Both are frauds from what I can see.

Perhaps in the end people have to make up their own minds as the show rolls on. Personally I don't know why I gave up my personal time on a valuable weekend to debate a non gold and silver topic other than the future of my grandchildren and their descendants does matter and I for one am not happy with handing on the world in a dilapidated condition. Anybody with a rental property will readily identify with how it feels when they rent their immaculate property to somebody who abuses their kindness and then departs leaving the mess and damage for the landlord to fix. If you think this issue is any different, well it isn't. And those we claim to care for the most deserve better than having a rampant and disrespectful bunch of yahoos live their lives and leave a dump when they go. Not on my watch friend.

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Beginning of the headline :The nature of the recently released report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is extremely alarmist. The report warns, with a 95% certainty, that global warming is man-made and that the resulting climate change will lead to: Rising temperatures, drought and increasing desertification Warming of the oceans and rising sea levels Shortages of food Loss of ice sheets & shrinking of glaciers Increasing intensity and size of storms There’s no doubt our climate is changing,... Read More

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