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Can We Afford Ukraine?

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Publié le 10 mars 2014
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Officially, US debt stands at more than $17 trillion. In reality, it is many times more. The cost of the US invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq may be more than six trillion dollars. President Obama's illegal invasion of Libya cost at least a billion dollars and left that country devastated. The costs of US regime change efforts in Syria are likely thus far enormous, both in dollars and lives. That's still a secret.

So who in his right mind would think it is a good time to start a war with Russia over Ukraine? And worse, who would commit the United States to bail out a Ukraine that will need at least $35 billion to survive the year?

Who? The president and Congress, backed by the neocons and the so-called humanitarian interventionists!

The House voted overwhelmingly last week to provide $1 billion in loan guarantees to Ukraine. That is just the beginning, you can be sure. But let's be clear: this is not money for the population of that impoverished country. The Administration is sending a billion dollars from US taxpayers to wealthy international bankers who hold Ukrainian debt. It is an international bank bailout, not aid to Ukrainians. And despite the escalating anti-Russia rhetoric, ironically some of that money will likely go to Russia for Ukraine's two billion dollar unpaid gas bill!

So what happened in Ukraine? The US government and media claims that the US must save Ukrainian democracy from an invading Russian army that is threatening the country's sovereignty. But in reality the crisis was instigated in part by US meddling. Remember the intercepted telephone call in which two senior Obama Administration officials discussed plans to replace the elected government in Ukraine with US puppets? That is exactly what happened. Is that not a violation of Ukraine's sovereignty? Is that what democracy is all about?

The Obama Administration's policy toward Ukraine is hypocritical. The overthrow of the government in Kiev by violent street protests was called a triumph of democracy, but when the elected parliament in autonomous Crimea voted last week to hold a referendum to decide its future, President Obama condemned it as a violation of international law. What about the principle of self-determination, which is also enshrined in international law?

I have long thought that a referendum to reorganize Ukraine into a looser confederation of regions might help reduce tensions. I still believe this could help, but it seems the US government is not so enthusiastic about democracy when there is a chance for an outcome it opposes.

I strongly believe that Crimeans have every right to transfer sovereignty over their peninsula to Russia if they wish. The only question that remains is whether there will there be an honest election, and I don't see any reason there can't be.

The US government tells the rest of the world, "We want you to be good democrats and have elections," but if they don't elect the right people then we complain about it and throw them out, like we did in Egypt. In Crimea they want to have an election to determine their future. President Obama condemned those plans for a vote by saying, "We are well beyond the days when borders can be redrawn over the heads of democratic leaders." Does he not remember that the authorities in Kiev were installed just weeks ago after a US-backed coup against the Ukrainian constitution?

Congress next week will likely vote for sanctions against Russia. Though many mistakenly believe that sanctions are a relatively harmless way of forcing foreign countries to do what we say, we should be clear: sanctions are an act of war.

Cooler heads in the United States are not currently prevailing. There is a danger of an unimaginable conflict between the US and Russia. We must demand a shift away from a war footing, away from incendiary rhetoric. We are broke and cannot afford to "buy" Ukraine. We certainly cannot afford another war, especially with Russia!

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And before the US prattles on about Crimean secession and international law, yah might wanna review just how the North American colonies broke away from England back in the late 1700's.

Then there is the further nonsense about democratic coups being good versus democratic votes for secession being bad. And for those unfamiliar with the US Constitution, the word "democracy" does NOT exist in that document or its Amendments.

Just where the hell does the State obtain its authority over its citizenry? What happened to the consent of the governed? In the USA, the XIIIth Amendment made slavery illegal. Ergo if we are going to consider internationalizing US principles, had we not better listen to those most directly affected? Will we defend slavery of the citizenry by an onerous government because it is sanctified by international law? Isn't international law just an agreement amongst bullies? Where is it written that an accident of birth forces compliance with the illogical dictates of a bunch of bullies?

And yes, I fully understand that this is all about Ukraine making good on international debt. The US involvement is about profits and posturing. Without a bogeyman, the US citizenry might start noticing the emperor is an idiot. Idiot defined as incapable of learning. Just what wars has the US won since WWII and only then as a member of the winning Allied Forces team. Yet, the US continues to claim they have an invisible dog in every fight. Obviously there must be a learning disability involved in this decision making process.

Coming full circle, in the end it will be determined by the consent of the governed. Whether you be from Lithuania, Ukraine or the US, if the governed refuses being governed by the PTB, the governing body will be forced out just as they were in Afghanistan and financially beaten to a bloody pulp for good measure (see Great Britain, Russia and USA). If the Crimean citizenry says no to Russia, Putin would be wise to buy a few souvenirs, a couple of postcards and then put Crimea in the rear view mirror. When a governing body forgets about consent of the governed, it can quickly find itself following in the dreadful footsteps of Robespierre. One enemy can be dealt with, but 5 million is unquestionably problematic. Those 5 million will be driven by pro bono publico. And we had best not forget the public's unquenchable thirst for spoils of war.

Lastly hadn't we better review Crimean history before we entangle ourselves in their business? As an Alaskan, I'm fully cognizant of the historical background surrounding the sale of Alaska to the USA by Russia. Neither Russia or the USA can afford any entanglements in Crimea, Ukraine or the world in general.
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I clearly understand you view as pure pragmatism. That is OK. It is always „better“ to stay away from any conflict at least for short run. When Nazi Germany started aggression in Europe, nobody wanted another war, nobody wanted to mess with it. I see resent Russian aggression in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova similar. You can't just close eyes and say "We Can't Afford it". I think this should not be discussed in terms "can we afford?". I am happy that your government is not passive in this situation. It is always easier to criticize that to do something about it. I am from Lithuania and I am not happy how Putin is acting in post soviet countries.
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Dear Ron,
I live in Ukraine, so your arguments about the situation in Crimea and the actions of your country and western countries against Russia know.
Now is the time when the actions of America and its allies against Russia. ever correct. If we do not stop Russia, in the future the U.S. will have CEDE ALASKA. How do you like the prospect? No wonder Poland, Slovakia and the Baltic countries are in awe of such a blatant policy of Russia. So you did not know the situation in our region and who Putin.
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Dear Ron,
Я живу в Украине, поэтому твои рассуждения об обстановке в Крыму и действия твоей страны и западных стран против России знаю.
Сейчас настало то время, когда действия Америки и их союзников против России. как никогда правильны. Если сейчас не остановить Россию, то в дальнейшем США ДОЛЖНЫ БУДУТ ОТДАТЬ АЛЯСКУ. Как тебе эта перспектива? Недаром Польша, Словакия и страны прибалтики находятся в страхе от такой наглой политики России. Поэтому, Ты совершенно не знаешь обстановку в нашем регионе и кто такой Путин.
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Dear bogza,

Try google translate on this: there is only one thing worse than losing identity - it is loosing identity and then turning against your own. Poles at least had some benefits from their repeated pathetic attempts at an empire. What is your excuse? Looking up to imperial Polish masters? Really?
Succinctly the most clear sighted and circumspect view expressed on the most important subject of the day!
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