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>War Zones  - James Howard Kunstler - 
I need some more popcorn now, my first bag is empty watching you two. Thank you S.W. and Spokes for the entertainment.

And now my turn to chime in:

For me part of the meaning of life is to discover the truth. And part of that means to assume something does not exist until proven otherwise. I chose the scientific approach and came to the conclusion that religion is something for those that need guidance in life. I chose not to need this, therefore I do not believe in a higher form. I am a secular humanist meaning that I believe in the good that can be within every human being. Just because we (still) do not understand how life works and where it came from does not mean we have to create someone/something who we say did it all. It is illogical.

Now back to me believing in humanity - yes there are many people that are corrupted and do nothing good for humanity. And religion has a lot to do with it in many cases. Look at the past and the present - how many deaths and hardship is directly and indirectly due to religion? I am talking about the middle ages especially, and what radical religious people are like today. Those that condemn others to death because they do not believe in the same god as them are what I think S.W. was talking about originally. Some use religion as an excuse to murder and do evil.

So you see religion can have good qualities, but also has bad qualities. You do not have to be religious to have a good conscience and help other people. I myself take great pleasure in helping others, but I do not do it for any god or after life, I do it for my own conscience. Some people need religion to have a conscience, and that is fine, good for them, but they better keep it to themselves. Helping people in need should occur out of the goodness of your heart, and not for religious reasons.

Those that take religion too seriously are mostly obnoxious, doing nothing good for their fellow man, and are sometimes even dangerous. It is THOSE groups of people that should just disappear, as S.W. has said, and it will lead to much more peace on earth. But of course we cannot do that - just wipe them out because of their beliefs - it is a difficult situation and we must make the best of it by not becoming just like them (sentencing them to death because of their beliefs).

This is what humanity has become in my eyes. A lot of those in power will do things that cause strife and misery to many many people, just because of what they believe in. Religion can be a dangerous excuse. And unfortunately it is being misused by so many people today. If there is a god, would he not want us all to live in peace and tolerate each other, no matter what we believe in?


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