The Gold Report: Janet Yellen's
about-face on quantitative easing (QE) makes two panicked pullbacks so far by
the Federal Reserve from the end of QE. Is it fair to say we now have QE
forever?
Jay Taylor: I don't know about forever because
nothing lasts forever. Your premise is largely correct, however, because the
discontinuation of quantitative easing would be so painful it's a pretty good
assumption that it will continue for a long time to come.
It will probably end only
when the system breaks down, which is inevitable because it is becoming
increasingly insolvent.
TGR: We've been hearing for three years
about the end of QE and the zero interest-rate policy (ZIRP). It has been
argued that this is unlikely for several reasons. QE is the only thing
responsible for whatever recovery we've had since 2008, and if ZIRP ended,
the U.S. government couldn't pay the interest on its debt, and trillions of
dollars in derivatives would go south.
JT: That's exactly right. Not to
mention that the private sector too is dependent on the narcotic of easy
money. As I say, QE and ZIRP won't end until the system breaks down and
forces the creation of a different monetary regime.
"What we call "the economy" is really more of a casino. The
money that is created isn't getting into the real economy. The Wall Street
guys with the Ph.Ds in mathematics have built
pick-pocketing machines that misallocate capital into their wallets, into
endlessly bigger government and further military action on the part of the
United States. It's going to end very badly. All we can do is try to prepare
as best we can to protect ourselves and our families.
TGR: How does the system break down?
JT: We saw the first hint of that with
the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy in 2008. Generally, the banking system goes
first. They can pretend that they've fixed it, but I see that Citicorp just
failed its stress test. After the banking system fails, the commercial system
fails because you can't stock the shelves in stores. Then you can't pay the
fire and police departments. Then you have chaos.
TGR: You've agreed with Jim Rickards that attempts by the U.S. to "get
tough" with Russia will fail. Can you explain why?
JT: Russia has its own interests to
protect, but so does Europe. I'm not so sure that the Europeans will
necessarily side with the United States. There could be a real crack in the
NATO alliance. The Germans need natural gas, and the Russians have it. I see
that the French energy company Total S.A. (TOT:NYSE)
is helping Russia increase its gas and oil production through fracking. Many
German companies are very much involved in Russia, as well.
TGR: You've talked about the
petrodollar being replaced by "petrogold."
JT: An enormous amount of gold is
flowing into China. And China has established a second gold exchange that
will allow non-Chinese to buy and sell it. Not paper gold, which is fantasy
gold, but real, physical gold. The gold price is being manipulated by the
futures markets, by the very people we were just talking about, the bankers,
the bullion guys, the people that really can't
afford to lose the dollar confidence game.
The Chinese want no part
of this. They have enough dollars and don't want more. Moreover, they don't
want to finance America's military-industrial offensive, which is paid for by
dollar manipulation.
TGR: How would petrogold
work in practice?
JT: Russia would provide China with
much of its energy needs and would be paid in renminbi.
The Russians would then take their renminbi to the
Chinese exchange and get gold for it, if they so desire. I think the
infrastructure is being set up, both with petroleum exchanges and gold
exchanges, in Russia and China and other countries in Asia.
We would have a much more
balanced world right now if Nixon hadn't taken us off the gold standard. That
allowed the elite and the military-industrial complex to pull the whole of
the world into the American orbit and saddle them with American debt and
American power.
Now there's blowback
against American power, the currency wars and the U.S. dollar as reserve
currency. Russia and China and other countries are saying, "enough
already."
TGR: Gold and gold equities had an excellent
winter, but spring has not at all been kind to them. Why?
JT: I think what we've seen recently
is just part of the natural ebb and flow. This is probably the last good
buying opportunity for many junior mining stocks. I am more excited now than
I have been at any time since 1981 when I first started writing my
newsletter. I think we're going to see a bull market that's going to shock
even the most ardent goldbugs.
TGR: Which gold junior most excites
you?
JT: Novo Resources Corp. (NVO:CNSX; NSRPF:OTCQX) and its Pilbara project in northern Western
Australia. It is listed on the CNSX, a secondary exchange that is not very
well established.
TGR: Quinton Hennigh is Novo's CEO. What does that mean to you?
JT: His involvement gives me great
confidence, as does the fact that Newmont Mining Corp. (NMC:TSX;
NEM:NYSE) owns 32% of the stock, with 18% owned by management. There are only
about 55 million (55M) shares outstanding, although there will be another
23.6M issued in exchange for the acquisition of an additional 70% or 18,000
kilometers of prospective land in the area. Those additional shares will be
issued to Mark Gareth Creasy, a major mine prospector in Australia.
TGR: The term "world-class"
has become a clich in our industry. Could Pilbara
be the real thing?
JT: The Witwatersrand deposit in
South Africa has produced 1.6 billion ounces of gold since the late 1800s,
more than any other district in the world. Quinton Hennigh
wondered if there could be another such district elsewhere. When he was a
Ph.D. student at the Colorado School of Mines he began to doubt the
prevailing geological theory of how the Witwatersrand was formed.
TGR: What did he eventually conclude?
JT: He hypothesized that
Witwatersrand was a precipitation event. There was virtually no oxygen on earth
2.7 to 3 billion years ago when simple plant life and photosynthesis began to
appear on earth. With photosynthesis came the production of oxygen, which is
required for the precipitation of gold and other minerals out of the sea
water. As oxygen appeared, very large amounts of gold present at that time in
the oceans was attracted to carbon layers on the sea floor that also became
more abundant with a growing abundance of plant life. Thus, Quinton believes
the abundance of gold at Witwatersrand is explained by the large amount of
gold at that time being precipitated out of sea water on to the shallow
seabed.
Cross Section of
Witwatersrand Geology
The Massive Pilbara Target
Note: The thin layers
or reefs of conglomerate rock in the illustration above left are where the
extremely high-grade gold is contained. Mining is now taking place at very
deep levels in the Witwatersrand in South Africa but in the late 1800s it was
initially at or near surface. Above top, the prospective ground picked up by Novo
is illustrated by the pink areas, which represent Archean Fortescue
formation rocks. It is interesting to note that this target is massively
larger than the gigantic Witwatersrand (as you can see from the lower
illustration).
Hennigh then searched for basins old
enough and in the right kind of geological environment to host another
Witwatersrand. And he thinks he found one in northern Western Australia in
the Pilbara Region.
TGR: What has Novo done to prove Hennigh's hypothesis?
JT: Like most companies, Novo
preserved its cash in 2012. But the company did some auger drilling and came
up with an NI 43-101 resource on a very small portion of the project: 421,000
ounces (421 Koz) at or near surface with 1.47 grams
per ton (1.47 g/t).
It's my understanding the
Newmont has sent up to a dozen geologists to Pilbara to map the outcrops.
This will in effect outline the shorelines of this ancient seabed. Quinton
told me that Newmont will be sharing this information with Novo and I expect
Novo will put that out into the public domain very soon. I believe this
process will be helpful in setting up drill targets, all of which will be
shallow, near surface. I expect there will be very extensive drilling and
that we should receive a significant number of drill results over the next
number of months this year.
TGR: How close is Hennigh
to success?
JT: I think he may be very close
based on my discussion with Quinton at the Prospectors and Developers
Association of Canada (PDAC) conference in Toronto in March. He is obviously
thrilled at having found gold hosted in carbon chunks in the drilling that
has been carried out so far. He says that Novo has not yet found what are
known as the "carbon leaders" or "reefs" that are typical
at Witwatersrand and which measure not in ounces per ton but in percentages.
He believes a carbon leader has not yet been found because the exploration is
still up higher in the system, near the shoreline.
TGR: How speculative is Novo as an
investment?
JT: It is very speculative and it
will remain so until the market understands whether or not Hennigh is right about his theory and whether or not the
deposit is economically viable. The stock is thinly traded and is held by
Newmont (32%) and management (18%), and Creasy will soon own 17%. The
technically oriented people who are on to this story are not willing to sell,
so a small amount of demand has driven the stock dramatically higher since I
talked about it at the PDAC. If the market starts to get the sense that
Henning has discovered another Witwatersrand, the sky is the limit for this
stock. Of course that is a big "if," so if the market is
disappointed for one reason or another, these shares could fall dramatically.
It's selling now at about $1.80/share but it was as low as $0.80 in January.
As to the probability of
success, all I can say is that Quinton Hennigh's
hypothesis looks pretty good so far. With just a small portion of this
shallow target drilled last year (see illustration above) the company has an
NI 43-101 Resource of 421 Koz gold with an average
grade of 1.47 g/t. But equally important, I think, is the presence of
gold-hosted carbon.
TGR: Closer to home, you've written
extensively about gold juniors in Qu�bec. What are your favorites there?
JT: I've just written about a new one,
Alexandria Minerals Corp. (AZX:TSX.V). The company has the Cadillac Break properties in the Abitibi
Greenstone Belt: 1.4 million ounces (1.4 Moz) gold
Measured, Indicated and Inferred. The company just sold 14 claims to
Agnico-Eagle Mines Ltd. (AEM:TSX; AEM:NYSE) for $5M,
with Alexandria keeping a 2% net smelter royalty. Agnico
owns 9% of the company; Teck Resources Ltd. (TCK:TSX; TCK:NYSE) owns 3.5%; and IAMGOLD Corp. (IMG:TSX;
IAG:NYSE) owns 3.5%.
Alexandria's exploration
potential looks absolutely phenomenal. The company has good management and
$5M in cash. At $0.05/share, this stock makes a lot of sense. I see the stock
has picked up a lot of volume over the past couple of days, so it seems
someone is waking up to the story.
TGR: What's your second Quebec
favorite?
JT: Metanor Resources Inc. (MTO:TSX.V) is finally coming into its own. Its Bachelor Lake mine has begun
commercial production at 4.5 Koz per month. In
addition, Metanor has the Barry project, which
gives it real blue-sky upside. That's an open-pit, very large, low-grade,
bulk-tonnage target in which Metanor has already
established a fairly decent resource.
Unfortunately, Metanor has seen an awful lot of dilution: 267M shares at
$0.18.
TGR: How many ounces could we see at
Bachelor Lake?
JT: It's underground, so those ounces
are harder to prove up, but their exploration has been quite promising. These
systems run very deep. I think we could be looking at something in the order
1.5 Moz ultimately.
TGR: Is there anything else you like in
Quebec?
JT: I've recommended Eastmain Resources Inc. (ER:TSX) and Globex
Mining Enterprises Inc. (GMX:TSX; GLBXF:OTCPK). I think they both have great prospects. Globex is a project generator. It is prudently managed
and does what project generators are supposed to do�use other people's money.
TGR: Which juniors are your favorites
in Nevada?
JT: I like two. The first is Canamex Resources Corp. (CSQ:TSX.V; CX6:FSE). I like its ownership structure. Gold
Resources Corp. (GORO:NYSE.MKT; GORO:OTCBB; GIH:FSE)
owns 18%, Hecla Mining Co. (HL:NYSE) owns 11.7% and management owns 6.2%. Its
Nevada Bruner project has a historic non-NI-43-101 resource of 385 Koz. Canamex has had some
exciting recent intersections: 4.08 g/t over 110 meters (110m), 3.1 g/t over
91m and 5.23 g/t over 58m.
The company's target here
is a shallow-oxide, heap-leachable deposit, which looks very good for
building the ounces that would make this project economic. And Canamex believes it may have found the feeder zones in
these high-grade intercepts. It is planning an NI 43-101 resource and a
preliminary economic assessment (PEA) by the end of 2014. At $0.105 a share,
add a little more excitement in the gold industry, and I can see this doing
extremely well this year.
TGR: And what's the second?
JT: Paramount Gold and Silver Corp.
(PZG:NYSE.MKT; PZG:TSX). This is really well funded with a major
Toronto financier standing behind it. The company has the Sleeper project in
Nevada and San Miguel in Mexico. Between them, that's around 6.9 Moz gold and 160 Moz silver.
The company did a PEA on
San Miguel: $707M net present value based on $1,500/ounce ($1,500/oz) gold. More recently, Paramount did a PEA on Sleeper:
$695M based on $1,300/oz gold. There's a lot of
exploration potential at both. At last look, shares were $1.26. When gold
moves higher, Paramount could be a takeover target because it has the ounces
to attract a major mining company.
TGR: Let's talk about companies you
like in Central America.
JT: Cayden Resources Inc. (CYD:TSX.V; CDKNF:OTCQX) in Mexico.
TGR: Another takeover target?
JT: I think so. There are only 41.8M
shares outstanding and it has very savvy management. CEO Ivan Bebek co-founded Asanko Gold
Inc. (AKG:TSX; AKG:NYSE.MKT), and he has brought in
strong technical people. Cayden is very well funded. On April 1, it closed a
$9M financing at $1.70. The stock is trading at $1.93 now.
The company has two
properties. El Barque�o is a shallow target that can be developed fairly quickly. Cayden has
something like nine targets there, and on the first target Cayden drilled,
the Azteca, it hit commercial-grade gold on 24 of 25 holes.
Cayden's other property
is Morelos Sur. That's in the Guerrero Belt, which is an up and comer. Cayden
thinks this might have greater long-term upside than El Barque�o. Some of its claims there are right smack
dab in the middle of Goldcorp
Inc.'s (G:TSX; GG:NYSE) Las Calles property, and Goldcorp is going
to have to have them. In fact, Goldcorp's pit runs onto its territory. I think
Cayden wants Goldcorp to know that it is not desperate and won't be forced to
take whatever Goldcorp offers it.
TGR: Heading down to South America,
what strikes your fancy?
JT: Columbus Gold Corp. (CGT:TSX.V) and its Paul Isnard project in French
Guiana.
TGR: This is perhaps the most acclaimed
of all junior gold projects, and yet it sits at $0.55 a share with a $71.8M
market cap.
JT: This goes back to what we were
talking about earlier. Investors haven't really come out of their shells yet.
As you mentioned, we've had another dip in the gold price, and people are
saying, "Oh no, here we go again." Well, I don't think so.
That said, Columbus Gold is a tremendous bargain. Paul Isnard has 5.37 Moz, but the
most important part of this story is the outstanding agreement the company
made with Nordgold N.V. (NORD:LSE).
That's a Russian company that produced somewhere around 800 Koz last year. Nordgold is very
aggressive and growing very rapidly.
According to the
agreement, Columbus has a 49.9% interest in Paul Isnard
carried to feasibility. Then, if it decides against putting up its 49.9%, it
gets a 25% carried interest to production. It cannot be knocked below 25%.
French Guiana is probably not the easiest place for English speakers to work,
but it's got French law, so its legal system is reasonably good. And Nordgold has shown it can work anywhere and do well.
Columbus also is a
project generator. It has two properties in Arizona and 18 in Nevada. Some
are earlier stage, but it has gotten some good drill results in Nevada. I
think Columbus is looking to farm some of those out. This is a company that
won't need to spend a lot of cash to stay in the game.
TGR: And your final gold junior pick
is?
JT: Brazil Resources Inc. (BRI:TSX.V; BRIZF:OTCQX), I've known its founder and chairman, Amir Adnani, for a long time. And, of course, many people know
his American energy company, Uranium Energy Corp. (UEC:NYSE.MKT).
Adnani went out and took advantage of
the weak gold market to pick up Brazilian gold properties: 2.59
Moz gold in three properties that are relatively
close together. Added to the property he had before, that makes
something like 3.9 Moz all told. Amir said to me
that he hopes we don't see a resumption in the gold
price right away. He'd like to see more weakness so he can get his hands on
more low-priced properties. The companies that have the cash and the
resources to finance themselves are today in a great position to enrich their
shareholders.
This company has a really
good ownership structure. Management and insiders own 25%,
and 30% is held by institutional investors. This includes a very wealthy
Brazilian financier who has the deep pockets. Adnani
is a very smart manager. He's done very well in the past, and I think he's on
to something here. I like this one a lot.
TGR: Final thoughts?
JT: Investors are still
shell-shocked. And the mainstream is convinced that gold isn't going anywhere
because they've been sold on the idea that the Ph.D. standard is much better
than the gold standard. And if you believe that, why would you buy gold
stocks? I'd say that 99% of American investors aren't in the least bit
interested. Canadians are a little different because mining is a big Canadian
industry.
But I think we're on the
verge of a secular bull market for the ages, something greater than I've seen
in my lifetime.
TGR: Jay, thank you for your time and
your insights.
As he followed the
demolition of the U.S. gold standard and the rapid rise in the national debt,
Jay
Taylor's
interest in U.S. monetary and fiscal policy grew, particularly as it related
to gold. He began publishing North American Gold Mining Stocks in 1981. In
1997, he decided to pursue his avocation as a new full-time career�including publication of his weekly J Taylor's Gold, Energy & Tech
Stocks newsletter. He also has a radio program, "Turning Hard Times
into Good Times."
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